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Totally cool...
by Greeny - Oct 26th 2004 16:01:41
If you don't like it - don't download it. Don't look at it. Filter it out
of your listings, but don't YOU dare ever try to tell ME what I can and
can't look at or see or believe.
You want to believe this game doesn't belong here. Fine.
I don't have a problem with it being here and that ought to also be
fine.
The game isn't hurting anyone, nor is it going to cause anyone to go out
and become a drug dealer thinking that they could simply apply the rules of
the game to actual life... All it is - is entertainment.
If you don't like it being called dope wars, how about this - FORK the
code and create an update... I don't know - maybe "Soda Wars"
where you have to sell more Pepsi than the other guys...
Geez... you have the source, you can tweek the code - so do something
constructive with your time other than telling other people what they ought
to do because of YOUR beliefs...
/flame off
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ludicrous and childish and irresponsible
by thecode - Oct 17th 2001 03:32:12
dopewars........
is there a point to a game like this ?
is there ultimately then a point to freshmeat.net for allowing it?
is there then a reason to maintain freshmeat as a centrepoint of release
info for linux?
hmm I'd say thats 'seriously up for grabs' wouldn't you?
as of now I'll get my info elsewhere ( unless by some stroke of genious
they remove this program immediately) and encourage others to as
well......
signed
codeofjustice
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Re: ludicrous and childish and irresponsible
by Anders K. Madsen - Oct 17th 2001 09:25:22
How many children do you think is actually downloading and installing the
game?
First of all, most of the users in here (appearantly) are adults...
Second, most children doesn't have root-access to a linux-box and can't
even install the game...
I'd say that it's definitely NOT irresponsible of freshmeat.net to let
someone distribute this kind of game...
Will you remove every single violent/criminal game from the
internet?
What about Hitman, Hidden & Dangerous, Counter-Strike etc...
I'd say: "Let's remove Counter-Strike from the internet, it deals with
terrorism, we are in war with terrorism, remove Counter-Strike from
everywhere... (Or at least don't let anyone but the bots play the
terrorists)"
Blah! Nonsense!
Just be tolerant and have humour, that'll get you much further than
exagerated righteousness.
I like this game...
I think it's great.
- Anders K. Madsen
--
Lillesvin Networks
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Re: ludicrous and childish and irresponsible
by thecode - Oct 19th 2001 13:20:06
> I like this game...
> I think it's great.
haha............I guess that says alot for your level of education and
maturity doesn't it..........yes I say ban all the games that 'glorify'
violence and idiocy..
is there really a point to them if so what?
to have a little 'fun' or take out a little frustration...
if so............there are better ways to do so and more responsible ways
instead of playing that violent game go donate your time to the 'red
cross'.......
ring a bell ?????????????????????????
also .....yes it IS important to keep a legitimate 'check' on society else
it Will run amok as it is currently doing............comments like yours
show how far we really have to go as a species to counter violence in our
nature............
how much do drugs and its proliferation have to do with the spread of
anger and mahem I wonder..........just look at the idiot bin laden whom has
his own drug empire and profiting from it , using some of that very money
to attack your way of life.......
sure take a chill pill you say........ludicrous.........
what do you suppose christ himself would say about such things in todays
society..do you have any idea? :-).........I sure do...he was a kind man
but also a righteous man but in a reasonable way.........he knew right from
wrong and the pitfalls of humanity.......
it appears you do not......'yet'
codeofjustice
-===
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Re: ludicrous and childish and irresponsible
by Anders K. Madsen - Oct 19th 2001 15:16:56
> haha............I guess that says alot
> for your level of education and maturity
> doesn't it..........
Why does that say anything about my level of education and
maturity?
Who do you think you are? How dare you judge anyone based on the
information you've got.
Are you saying that I can't have fun glorifying violence and drugs if I'm
well-educated, or are you saying that you're too uneducated to see the fun
in it?
> is there really a point to them if so
> what?
Haven't you ever dressed up for halloween?
I've often enjoyed
dressing up like a gangster and pretending I'm running
the mafia.
It's fun, don't try to understand it, just enjoy it, stop clinging to your
all-american-moral-codex and have fun.
> just look at the idiot
> bin laden whom has his own drug empire
> and profiting from it , using some of
> that very money to attack your way of
> life.......
He's not attacking my way of life, as far as I'm concerned, he attacked a
country who had single-handedly claimed to be the ultimate power of the
world...
I'm well aware of the people who died and for them I have grieved, but for
the attack... *shrug*
> what do you suppose christ himself
> would say about such things in todays
> society..do you have any idea?
> :-).........I sure do...he was a kind
> man but also a righteous man but in a
> reasonable way.........he knew right
> from wrong and the pitfalls of
> humanity.......
>
> it appears you do not......'yet'
I don't know what christ would say about such things and I really couldn't
care less.
I'm not a christian, I'm an atheist, existensialist etc... What christ
would say, and how righteous he was doesn't really concern me.
What really concerns me is that some people simply doesn't know of common
tolerance, respect for other people and their opinions unless it's spoonfed
to them with the religion.
If you want to discuss this topic further please feel free to mail me, we
really shouldn't waste any more space on this forum, it's ridiculous.
--
Lillesvin Networks
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Re: ludicrous and childish and irresponsible
by Jaguar - Mar 14th 2003 20:36:27
>
> % I like this game...
>
> % I think it's great.
>
> haha............I guess that says alot
> for your level of education and maturity
> doesn't it..........yes I say ban all
> the games that 'glorify' violence and
> idiocy..
>
> is there really a point to them if so
> what?
> to have a little 'fun' or take out a
> little frustration...
> if so............there are better ways
> to do so and more responsible ways
>
> instead of playing that violent game go
> donate your time to the 'red
> cross'.......
>
> ring a bell ?????????????????????????
>
> also .....yes it IS important to keep a
> legitimate 'check' on society else it
> Will run amok as it is currently
> doing............comments like yours
> show how far we really have to go as a
> species to counter violence in our
> nature............
>
> how much do drugs and its proliferation
> have to do with the spread of anger and
> mahem I wonder..........just look at the
> idiot bin laden whom has his own drug
> empire and profiting from it , using
> some of that very money to attack your
> way of life.......
>
> sure take a chill pill you
> say........ludicrous.........
>
> what do you suppose christ himself would
> say about such things in todays
> society..do you have any idea?
> :-).........I sure do...he was a kind
> man but also a righteous man but in a
> reasonable way.........he knew right
> from wrong and the pitfalls of
> humanity.......
>
> it appears you do not......'yet'
>
> codeofjustice
> -===
I don't understand how you can drown yourself in those simple minded
ideas, and manage to drag a decietful religion into it as well. The problem
with people like you is your obsessive need to conform everyone to this
utopian-like vision in which we are all happy and sedated with "love for
the lord", I pity you...
In all truth, these games are our way of mocking the world and all of it's
flaws. If I truly took joy in purely slaughtering people, I would go out
with a gun and just open fire on the first unfortunate bastard I came
across. If I really wanted to traffic narcotics, I would start out at your
child's school. But, unlike what you would like to believe, we're not
terrible people for indulging ourselves in a humorous illusion from time to
time. Sure, many of the things that are happening as off today in this
world are tragic, but it is none of my concern, seeing humanity will kill
me off in due time, some just go before others.
Let us live and do as we please, you have the right to your opinion, but
at a certain point, it just gets annoying and dictorial, leave us be with
our "insanity".
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Re: ludicrous and childish and irresponsible oh my!
by irb - Oct 17th 2001 16:09:11
> dopewars........
>
> is there a point to a game like this
> ?
Yes, it's fun.
> is there ultimately then a point to
> freshmeat.net for allowing it?
Yes, it's software.
> is there then a reason to maintain
> freshmeat as a centrepoint of release
> info for linux?
Yes, it's a useful resource.
> hmm I'd say thats 'seriously up for
> grabs' wouldn't you?
No, I wouldn't.
> as of now I'll get my info elsewhere (
> unless by some stroke of genious they
> remove this program immediately) and
> encourage others to as well......
Why should they remove it? Does it offend you? Let's say BIND offends me
(not necessarily a stretch of the imagination)- should they remove
that?
Perhaps, "codeofjustice", you'd feel more at home in a more proprietary
software environment where your kind of censorship is not only supported
but actively pursued.
> signed
> codeofjustice
--
/i.
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Re: ludicrous and childish and irresponsible oh my!
by thecode - Oct 19th 2001 13:25:44
> Yes, it's fun.
why, in what way..........give me exactly reasons why you find it
fun.......then lets talk about your age..........i'm guessing that puts you
at pre-adolescance.
> Yes, it's software.
yup its only software huh.........wrong its way more than that
> Yes, it's a useful resource.
yes along with its condemnation of a peaceful existence........right
> Why should they remove it? Does it
> offend you? Let's say BIND offends me
> (not necessarily a stretch of the
> imagination)- should they remove that?
ludicrous...........and a VERY poor example...
>
> Perhaps, "codeofjustice", you'd feel
> more at home in a more proprietary
> software environment where your kind of
> censorship is not only supported but
> actively pursued.
No I'm just looking for a little maturity in the use of our 'software' and
its 'distribution'........but it seems there are those whose 'position' in
society they feel gives them the right to play god.......maybe its only
those priviledged few driving those elite vehicles that they feel gives
them the right to play god........
ring a bell ?
signed
codeofjustice
-===
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Re: ludicrous and childish and irresponsible oh my!
by irb - Oct 19th 2001 13:45:27
>
> % Yes, it's fun.
>
> why, in what way..........give me
> exactly reasons why you find it
> fun.......then lets talk about your
> age..........i'm guessing that puts you
> at pre-adolescance.
I'm old enough to know where and when to have pithy little flamewars. This
isn't the place for it.
If you want to continue this, contact me via email- try irb+freshmeat at
viopac.com. If you do, please dump the self-righteous attitude.
If, however, you're only interested in mouthing off in public, then I
apologize to the rest of the FM subscribers who've had to put up with my
feeding the troll.
--
/i.
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Re: ludicrous and childish and irresponsible oh my!
by thecode - Oct 19th 2001 15:06:17
> If, however, you're only interested in
> mouthing off in public, then I apologize
> to the rest of the FM subscribers who've
> had to put up with my feeding the
> troll.
what does self-righteous have to do with the desire for a little maturity
and responsibility in society........
feeding the troll?.......what a lovely comment to make about a very
serious subject..
I"m not the one spouting flames......just facts and clear
concern.
is it so hard to design games that reflect a little dignity ?.....we can't
have a little fun without violence ?......hmm looks where its gotten us so
far.......
anyway this thread is complete......I'll contribute via other means
including non-violent, fun entertainment.........unless the authors intent
( which is not stated anywhere I found ) is to poke fun at the
establishment or drugs themselves I don't see where the enjoyment factor
comes in here .......I dont find anything about this program or those like
it.......amusing to the point of just 'chilling' out about it.....and
frankly I had higher hopes for linux in general........yes I relaize its
been out for sometime and its also at download.com and lord knows where
else........
anyway something to think about.......I am not self-righteous and if I've
portrayed that I appologize......its not my intent.......I'm just
concerned. As stated above I will contribute to this cause in more direct
ways including non-violent , addictive engaging games like quake3 only with
a non-violent twist.........
I judge no one but I see danger in some current trends........
thx for reading
codeofjustice
-====
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Re: ludicrous and childish and irresponsible
by Carsten Meyer - Jun 25th 2002 17:47:54
Hey, 28 subscribers is not too bad, is it?
Actually most of freshmeat users will be old enough, don't you think?
Carsten
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Re: ludicrous and childish and irresponsible
by vingaard - Aug 1st 2002 08:53:39
Hey it just a game. Noone force you to play Dopewar and if you are not
happy with
freshmeat - nobody demands that you must use
freshmeat.net.
Freedom of the net ....
A word from a vise man who once said:
" The one who take fun as fun and work as work have misunderstood both
parts "
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Great game!
by Remco Brink - Apr 9th 2001 08:41:05
This is a truly great game! It's highly addictive and the ability to play
the game online on one of the
many servers is an essential part of the gaming experience. For those
of us without the luxury of a permanent internet connection and/or flatrate
it is also possible to play this in single player mode.
Drug dealing has never been more fun (although it is possible to remove
all drug references, if you're a concerned parent)!
The time needed for a session of dopewars can vary depending on the
configuration of the respective Dopewars server.
There's a built-in bot, a perl bot and a Python client available.
What more can you possibly want?
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